Before we get into nice discussion about nice girls and nice guys, I want you to go watch this video.
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(I mean it. I’m not even going to be nice about it. Go watch and then come right back. I’ll wait for you. I might even slip into something more comfortable.)
(that space was you, watching the video. Thank you. I love it when you do what I tell you.)
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I don’t know the context for this scene. I don’t have a lot of grounding in the series but based on this - and Joan, omg Joan is My People – I suspect I would love it.
What I do know is this: there are some angry women on Mad Men.
Betty Draper, for example, our rampant pigeon shooter, is the (very nice) poster girl for nice girl rage.
I know some nice girls are nodding their heads, right now.
I mean, we know this story: about how women bite their tongues and their carrot sticks to keep it all in check. How we, historically, have made nice and played small. How an angry woman is a spectre. How ‘hysteria’ and ‘bitch’, liberally or even hypothetically applied, can shut us up.
“I don’t want him to think I’m a bitch.”
We’re nice because anger is dangerous. So we file down our nails and with it our edges and dull our teeth and nibble at the edges of directly expressed emotion and, let’s be honest, life.
We’re the nice women. We’re doing The Right Thing at the right time in the right way and probably wearing the right shoes while we’re doing it. Nicely.
And I have no doubt that a lot of nice women are holding it together publicly and then shrieking at their kids at home.
I submit to you that the ‘nice girl’ is confined, constrained, and angry – and really, not so ‘nice’ at all.
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Nice means “pleasant, agreeable, satisfactory.”
Originally, though, nice meant ‘not to cut’ which became ‘not to know’ which became ‘ignorant’ which transformed into ‘foolish’ or ’silly’ which became what we’ve got now: pleasant, agreeable, satisfactory.
Who aspires to this?
Nice is a social strategy and its tactics are quiet, smiling, obeisance, sacrifice, agreement, gifts, doing favours, ingratiation.
Nice is a bribe. Nice is a way to be un-noticed while raging inside at being un-noticeable.
Nice is a way to gain the trust of someone who has no business trusting you. In fact, in The Gift of Fear, Gary de Becker includes the ‘niceness’ ploy as a pre-indicator of violence.
Nice is patting your irritable kid on the head and kissing your philandering husband and then going outside to kill some birds.
Because a victim, especially a nice one, is the most dangerous creature on earth.
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All of this is what nice means, but what nice does not mean – and what we often conflate it with – is “innately good.”
So that’s nice, and The Nice Girl.
What about The Nice Guy?
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Nice guys. I’ve ended things with guys and had them reply, see? this is what happens to the nice guy.
And – perhaps like a lot of women – I let them think that.
Because I was being nice.
Women do this a lot. We tell guys ‘you’re such a nice guy’ when really what we mean is I would go out with you, but:
- you’re creeping me out
- your house is filthy which scares me and god forbid we live like that
- your conversation is beige
- you don’t surprise me
- I’m smarter than you
- you’re not bringing it in the bedroom
- you’re aimless and I’d have to carry this thing
- I’m worried that I’ll have to do all the work in this relationship
- I think that all this sweetness is an act to cover up the fact that you’re flaky and once you’ve ‘got’ me, you won’t really be there for me
- you’re not that great of a kisser
- you’re too much work
- you want to eat my soul
- I know that this sweet stuff is a front. You don’t want to be nice to me – you want to own me
- you lack initiative
- you’re not intellectually challenging
- I would have to unlock you
- I see the future and it is me shopping for your family at Christmas while you watch TV
- I can see what you want and it is too much
When I do this – when I spare the guy’s feelings to avoid a scene and just agree that yes, the problem is that he is too nice – I perpetuate the nice guy myth.
That nice guys finish last. That the good guy never gets the girl.
Which leaves a lot of men running around, wounded, thinking that ‘nice’ is a problem – and it is, but not for the reasons they think – that must be cured. The cure, they think – or dating gurus are quick to reassure them – is to be a jerk, or a pick up artist, or just plain not nice to women.
Any PUA will tell you that women don’t like nice guys or that good guys who are ‘too nice’ to women won’t be successful with women.
Not true.
It is weak, ineffectual, closeted control-freak guys that repel women (and people, more generally). Nice isn’t the problem.
Or maybe it is.
Here’s my PSA: just like The Nice Girl, The Nice Guy isn’t really nice.
Often nice is a social strategy. Nice is a mask worn by scared, creepy, angry, bribing, entitled, controlling people.
Nice covers a lot of anger.
This is what I know about nice guys, and why I’m suspicious of them:
Because in life, nice guys are not getting what they want, and they’re mad, and they’ll be mad at me, too when I don’t toe the line (and I won’t). The worse a guy’s character, the nicer he’ll try to act.
But I’m too nice to tell a man these ugly truths.
And so flourishes the urban myth that nice guys finish last (with women) – if they get to finish, at all.
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Just like the Nice Girls, Nice Guys are angry.
Nice appears to be flexible but is rigid: Nice has muscled and restrained herself, intently and vigorously, into compliance with everyone else’s expectations and so your failure to do the same – for her, for the world – enrages her.
And I’m okay with anger – anger is fuel and anger can be hot and oh, the righteous fires that anger will light.
But repressed anger is stasis. Repressed anger is vindictive, passive-aggressive, and insidious. Repressed anger is dangerous.
The truth is this: repressed anger is the shadow of Nice. Anger, denied, trails Nice everywhere, in every light.
Here’s another truth:
The Good Guy does get the girl.
But Good Guys aren’t necessarily nice. In fact, all the man and women I know, respect, love or want to love are most definitely not nice.
Nice: pleasant, agreeable, satisfactory, deceptive, dangerous.
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My point: nice guys are not nice, meaning ‘innately good’.
Nice is just the angle they’re working to get what they want. And when they don’t get what they want, they blame nice, and strip away nice and show the world who they really are.
And who they are is who the women in their lives - who lied and told them they were nice - knew they were, all along.
I have some ‘bad boys’ in my life – but they’re not really bad boys. Instead, they’re men who are at home in their skin and their masculinity, sexuality, aggression, vulnerability, heart, darkness, light – and don’t need to camouflage any of it with a layer of nice. I know that if I ever turned one of these men down, sexually or romantically, they’d never lash out at me. These guys – these men – would never call me a bitch or even a bad word (unless…well, never mind).
But the so-called nice guys? They’re nice until you don’t want ‘em or you don’t give them what they want. And then they call you a bitch or a tease or a slut.
Nice.
Z: hi
Kelly: hi. how was your day?
Z: ball busting
Kelly: what happened?
Z: well I had a great time today having coffee with this beautiful woman…she had this low-cut top on that had me drooling. But when I dropped her off she refused to kiss me
Kelly: what a bitch! you should drop her and never talk to her again
Z: I wanted to kiss her
Kelly: I understand. Here’s what I don’t understand: men. Maybe. Do you think I ‘get’ men? As in, understand them?
Z: No you don’t
Kelly: Explain
Z: in my view… you have this view of men that is somehow not grounded in reality… they constantly disappoint you by being typical men and acting as men do…that tells me that you don’t really understand their make up
Kelly: mmmmmmmmmmmm. good insight. I’ve specifically decided to throw out my fantasies, and just deal with people, as they are, for real. That’s been really rewarding, so far… So tell me about a man’s makeup
Z: A man’s makeup is that we are basically fuck-ups…
Kelly: what?!
Z: We dont have any depth or tolerance for pain. We see everything in terms of… “will I get fucked?” We are not emotional creatures so an onslaught of emotion from a woman has us running for the hills or joining the foreign legion.
Kelly: That sounds like true lies. Like a cartoon of masculinity, babe. How do you explain fatherhood? Or friendship? We’re friends and I’m not fucking you. You give me emotional support, and love, and advice, and ask nothing, so you’re deeper than what you just described. And I have driven you batty with emotional demands at times, and you’re still here. Not in the foreign legion, or in the hills, even though you’re not getting fucked.
Wait…I’m checking my purse for your cojones.
Nope.
Nothing. You must still have them. Or maybe you left them at the coffee shop.
Z: I am talking in generalities. After that it boils down to the individual
Kelly: it always does, for sure. This man/woman business is kind of bullshit. The issue is more temperament than gender. If I were dating women instead of men, I’d still have the same Issues. I’d find women who retreated from my emotional needs just like I’m SUPERB at finding men who do that, too.
Z: You have wanted more from men than they are capable of delivering
Kelly: OH YES. So very true babe. You were one of those, but you know I love you anyway.
Z: You don’t love me
Kelly: WHAT? do you really think that? You mean the world to me. I reference things you say, in my own head. You’re part of me
Z: Really
Kelly: Really. I talk about you, and the things you’ve taught me
Z: What do you say’?
Kelly: To myself or to other people? To myself: you’re one of the voices in my head now. Part of my decision making process. To other people: you’re my rock.
I’m so lucky. I have you. I have ___ and ___, too. Although I’m a woman who apparently doesn’t understand men romantically, my life overflows with male friendship. I have three amazing men in my corner, absolutely and unwaveringly. Offering friendship. Asking nothing of me except to just be me. And showing up, consistently. It is almost better than a boyfriend.
Unfortunately no one is having sex with me.
*le sigh*
Z: I’ll have sex with you.
Kelly: No you won’t, but thanks for the offer. Hey, babe, can I write about this conversation? About your fucked up definition of masculinity?
Z: Yes. But end it with the fact that you decided to have sex with me out of pity…
Kelly: Nope. No pity sex for you baby. You get hot lovin’ or nothing…so let’s err on the side of nothing.
Z: lol. love ya babes
Kelly: me too. And thanks for the coffee.
I am not a morning person. To me, the wee hours are like The Bad Ex: unpleasant, defensive, and best avoided.
And yet by sheer force of will and habit and the tyranny of children wee’er than the hours, I rise early.
Like 5.30 am early. The ugly early.
And lo, he said, ‘let there be caffeine’.
So I’m always astonished when my sister or a friend says something like “but I’m not a morning person like you are…”
My head swivels around, exorcist-style, to locate this saintly ‘you’. When I realize I am that you, I inevitably have a whatchutalkingaboutWillis? moment.
(I had the same reaction when my sister told me “…but I don’t enjoy dating the way you do…“)
My point (and there is one):
I’m working against my body’s impetus.
My natural inclination is to stay up late(ish) and get up around 8ish. My most productive working hours are 9-11 in the morning and 9-11 at night.
BUT.
That’s not how my life works. My kids wake at inhumane hours and five days a week there are bells that ring and expectations of attendance accompany those sounds. The other two days there are expectations of waffles or pancakes.
So I just get up, drink lots of coffee, and try to make it all knit together while eagerly anticipating the future when my children become surly teenagers who resent the sound of my breath and my presence but sleep past 7am.
Or can pour milk in their cereal unassisted.
MIRACLES. HEAVEN. SLEEP.
I digress.
Now, just as I work against my body’s natural inclination with (lack of) sleep, I do this in The Interpersonal Thing, too.
I say: I’m a talker. Words are my foreplay. Talk to me, baby.
While this is true, it is not the whole story. Often, I’m silencing one of my languages at the expense of the other.
Body is quiet so words can speak.
I remember when I realized this: it was just after I realized I was In Love, probably for the first time. We were swimming in each other. Our physical boundaries were porous. While we had astonishing, wide-ranging conversations and enjoyed a profound intellectual tension and communion, we were connected by touch and presence and being more than with words.
At the time, I had two room-mates. One day, I came skipping into the living room and landed on the sofa, right between them. They both shifted away from me so that our bubbles remained intact.
Another time, my bestest guy friend (my first boyfriend) from high school was visiting us. He was sitting on the sofa and I sat beside him, thigh-to-thigh and leaned into him. He stiffened.
Neither of these things were calculated. They were instinctual: I was so used to being right up close with someone – my new love – that I forgot in most relationships closeness is brokered with words rather than bodies.
I remember that stiffness, the moving away, the distance, and the chatter – and I treasure relationships where spaces contract and breach is welcome.
Like with my children, to whom intimacy is touch.
Which is not to say that we don’t talk. Of course we talk. We talk a lot. My eldest daughter, Sophie, is almost six, and she tells me that her favourite part of the day is our talking-time. We read stories together and I tuck the girls into their beds in their rooms. I sit with Lola, the little one (she’s three) and we talk while I rub her back and hold her close.
Then I get into bed with Sophie, wrap my arms around her and press her cheek to mine, and we talk while I stroke her hair. She tells me every detail of her life and all the things she’s thinking about and all the dramas in class and daycare and of course Hannah Montana, who has a talking horse.
And she always sighs and says, Mama, I love our talks.
I love our talks, too.
But more is being said than could ever be told with words alone.
I’m acutely conscious that right now, in this shimmering, evancescent, temporary moment, I have my children’s permission to touch them, kiss them, cuddle them, hold them, be with them, close to them.
And that is intensely precious to me on so many levels.
Our physical bond is the foil to my overwhelmingly word-centric world. Most of the time I privilege verbs over body – so much so that I’ll despair over a man who can’t seem to connect with me with words even if he’s telling me sweet things with his actions, his body, his daily presence and unremitting tenderness. I’ll assume he’s not verbally and emotionally fluent because I’ve unlearned his language.
My language.
And I know when I started locking down my physicality and unleashing my language.
The tween years.
The exact moment when I started becoming conscious that my body could – and was – sending messages was the moment I started restraining it.
Started fencing off space.
Started closing down emotional, physical signals.
Stopped being affectionate with adults and even same-age friends.
Stopped touching people.
Started talking on the phone. For HOURS.
This is no coincidence. I know this with my body and when I’m not careful, my tongue thinks for me:
I wish we could just fuck and get it over with so I wouldn’t be so tongue-tied and shy.
Now. I do understand that some tsk-tsk-ing might be in order. I’m not necessarily advocating sex as an ice-breaker (mostly. maybe).
But what this accidental truth tells me is that intimacy is not just words.
Words are sometimes a fence, fencing, sparring, defence.
Body is my first language. We have our physical selves, our hunger for touch, and our ability to effectively communicate needs, wants and desires long before we come into words. (Just ask an infant or her exhausted parent.)
All of this is to say that naturally I’m a late-riser and a body-talker. Yet I bow to the demands of my life and get my ass out of bed early so I can talk (and write) pretty all day.
So when I read this, astonishment, horror, recognition:
Historically, women’s sexuality and intellect have never been integrated. Women’s bodies were controlled, and their sexuality was constrained, in order to avoid their corrupting impact on men’s virtue. Femininity, associated with purity, sacrifice and frailty, was a characteristic of the morally successful woman. Her evil twin, the succubus (whore, slut, concubine, witch) was the earthy sensual, and frankly lusty woman who had traded respectability for sexual exuberance. Vigorous sexuality was the exclusive domain of men. Women have continuously sought to disentangle themselves from the patriarchal split between virtue and lust, and are still fighting this injustice. When we privilege speech and underplay the body, we collude in keeping women confined. - Esther Perel, Mating in Captivity (emphasis mine)
And that is why I write about sex.
The Latin Quarter. Friday night. My friend Joanie is holding court. She knows people. She’s having an mmm-hmmm hot conversation with the guy behind the bar. He looks like a kid but I’m pretty sure he owns the joint. She’s in her fifties and he’s fascinated.
I’m fascinated. She can salsa. She can hold a man’s gaze and say something utterly innocuous and make it sizzle. She’s sultry.
The woman can flirt. If I wrote down the things she says, you’d say what? There’s nothing innately smoky in that sentence.
It’s not what she says. It is how she says it. She says it hot.
So whenever we get together, we speak a mutual language: men.
We like ‘em.
LOTS.
She discovered Plenty of Fish. She announced that she was holding auditions for the role of “boyfriend”. There was a flurry of dating. Lots of dating.
If I’d had a blog then…oh the stories we’d tell.
So when she told me she’d decided to be celibate, I was incredulous. I had to get her to define the term because I was sure we were using it differently.
When you say you’re celibate, what does that mean?
She explained.
Yeah, it pretty much means “not having sex.”
Stunned. STUNNED, I tell you.
I’m not sure I’ve ever known anyone who was celibate.
I’ve known people who weren’t getting laid, but that was never by choice. I have had many conversations about sex, but until then, I’d never had one with a sexy adult who said they’d decided not to have sex.
So…why? What’s that all about? What’s that like? And why, again?
She was exhausted and disappointed with the dating scene. All this energy, activity, heat-seeking action, and very little connection. Holding space for a partner. Yearning, scanning, searching, mingling, chirping, chattering.
She said it was bit hamster-on-a-wheel: a lot of activity, with very little traction or direction.
So she thought she’d opt out. For a bit. Until she got her bearings.
Or until someone inspired her to change her mind.
I’ll admit it: I was not sold.
I was, however, curious.
Joanie is juicy. What was it like for this delicious creature, built for lovin’, to be solo and sexless?
Joanie said that she found it quieted the noise in her head – the noise that she was so accustomed to hearing that she didn’t even hear it, any more.
Until it was quiet. And then it was really quiet.
When she took sex – and not just sex, but Looking For Love – off the table, she started noticing and connecting with the people around her. In the moment. Just to connect. Not to angle, anticipate, interpret, discern, or decode.
She said that when she was ‘in the market’, she’d go to a party and scan the room, trying to figure out who was with whom, who was looking, who was looking at her. And that informed who she talked to and how she talked to them.
It was all agenda. It was all seeking. It was more noise than signal.
And when she decided ‘no more sex for you!’ (to herself), the noise…subsided.
Now, when she went to a party, she was at the party, not in her head. She was with you, not wondering about your orientation or availability.
She just enjoyed herself, in the moment, instead of engineering future imaginary moments.
That blew my mind. Turn down the volume? Be here, now?
Wow.
But I wasn’t giving up sex or maybe A Great Big Love for inner peace.
Screw inner peace.
(I feel very peaceful after sex, for example.)
Right now, I’m digging me some inner peace.
I don’t know if I’m going to claim the word ‘celibate’ because it seems so dried out and well, unsexy, to me – and I doubt I have much of a commitment to the word or the course of action.
I’m not abstaining from fucking so much as avoiding
fuckwittery (mine, mostly). I’ve decided I’m not allowed to be in a Grown-Up Relationship until I’m ready to grow up.
So something’s shifted in me in the last three months. I’m not having sex. I’m not collecting men. But I am pretty damn happy.
And it’s not just me who noticed. At our recent sex toy party (strangely good timing, don’t you think?), my friend’s husband told his wife that I looked “really happy.” My daughter’s daycare leader wondered if I have “a really good man in your life, because you look so…happy.” My sister told me that she’s noticed that I seem really relaxed and…wait for it…happy.
And my friend Joanie was right: the noise was overwhelming but I was so used to it that I couldn’t hear it.
Now, suddenly, I hear all kinds of things that I ignored, before.
Like what the men – and women and children – in my life are really saying to me. And what they mean to me.
And trust me, it’s juicy.