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	<title>Comments on: infatuation is fine cheese but if you want forever, marry a cautious cheesemaker</title>
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		<title>By: Janelle</title>
		<link>http://www.kellydiels.com/2011/05/18/love-fine-cheese/#comment-34222</link>
		<dc:creator>Janelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 18:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is so true. I recently discovered that I&#039;ve been believing that I can MAKE my husband happy. What a toxic belief. It&#039;s up to him to be happy. It&#039;s up to me to be happy. We are both in charge of our own feelings and emotions and I love that because that&#039;s freedom.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so true. I recently discovered that I&#8217;ve been believing that I can MAKE my husband happy. What a toxic belief. It&#8217;s up to him to be happy. It&#8217;s up to me to be happy. We are both in charge of our own feelings and emotions and I love that because that&#8217;s freedom.</p>
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		<title>By: Irving Podolsky</title>
		<link>http://www.kellydiels.com/2011/05/18/love-fine-cheese/#comment-34199</link>
		<dc:creator>Irving Podolsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2011 23:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-34195&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@kellydiels&lt;/a&gt;, I&#039;m wondering Kelly, and I could be totally off target here, that perhaps your resistance to &quot;commitment and intimacy&quot; might hinge on the fear of losing it.  Because sometimes, the commitment we crave is more about our partner&#039;s commitment to TRUTH than commitment to us.  

Yeah, separation hurts, but if a break up is done honestly, without deception and manipulation, we can handle it.  

BETRAYAL on the other hand, cuts deep, and it starts with the feeling of disconnection, disconnection from what feels &quot;right.&quot; We sense we&#039;re not getting the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.  When that happens we fill those gaps of distrust with rationalizations because...well, who doesn&#039;t want to be loved.  We think, it&#039;s me.  I&#039;m just being paranoid.  I&#039;ll fix it.

But maybe it isn&#039;t you.  Maybe your senses are ringing true.  Maybe you two are not fully connected as you should be.  If this is the case you must confront the displacement with your loved one.  You&#039;ve got to expose your feelings.  You&#039;ve got to find out: Are they about real loss, like loss of truth?  Or are they about fear of loss?

If your feelings are about fear of loss and your partner supports you while correcting those doubts, then you are on your way to building the trust we so desperately need.  Without trust, there cannot be love.

Warmly,
Irv]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-34195" rel="nofollow">@kellydiels</a>, I&#8217;m wondering Kelly, and I could be totally off target here, that perhaps your resistance to &#8220;commitment and intimacy&#8221; might hinge on the fear of losing it.  Because sometimes, the commitment we crave is more about our partner&#8217;s commitment to TRUTH than commitment to us.  </p>
<p>Yeah, separation hurts, but if a break up is done honestly, without deception and manipulation, we can handle it.  </p>
<p>BETRAYAL on the other hand, cuts deep, and it starts with the feeling of disconnection, disconnection from what feels &#8220;right.&#8221; We sense we&#8217;re not getting the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.  When that happens we fill those gaps of distrust with rationalizations because&#8230;well, who doesn&#8217;t want to be loved.  We think, it&#8217;s me.  I&#8217;m just being paranoid.  I&#8217;ll fix it.</p>
<p>But maybe it isn&#8217;t you.  Maybe your senses are ringing true.  Maybe you two are not fully connected as you should be.  If this is the case you must confront the displacement with your loved one.  You&#8217;ve got to expose your feelings.  You&#8217;ve got to find out: Are they about real loss, like loss of truth?  Or are they about fear of loss?</p>
<p>If your feelings are about fear of loss and your partner supports you while correcting those doubts, then you are on your way to building the trust we so desperately need.  Without trust, there cannot be love.</p>
<p>Warmly,<br />
Irv</p>
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		<title>By: Kara-Leah</title>
		<link>http://www.kellydiels.com/2011/05/18/love-fine-cheese/#comment-34198</link>
		<dc:creator>Kara-Leah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2011 23:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-34195&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@kellydiels&lt;/a&gt;, Yes, can so relate to this comment. And also to never going home after the first date. Me all over. At least in the past.

You&#039;ve given me something to chew over as I enjoy being myself for the first real time in 10 years (!). May I meet a cautious cheesemaker down the line sometime. No rush now!

Thanks for another awesome article.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-34195" rel="nofollow">@kellydiels</a>, Yes, can so relate to this comment. And also to never going home after the first date. Me all over. At least in the past.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve given me something to chew over as I enjoy being myself for the first real time in 10 years (!). May I meet a cautious cheesemaker down the line sometime. No rush now!</p>
<p>Thanks for another awesome article.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara Russell</title>
		<link>http://www.kellydiels.com/2011/05/18/love-fine-cheese/#comment-34197</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2011 21:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You have taken the scalpel to the heart of the matter. Love (or relationships) are like a gourmet meal, to be enjoyed slowly-one course at a time and in the proper order. As a child of the 60’s most people of my acquaintance, not knowing any better, partook of dessert first, voraciously wolfing down copious amounts from the dessert cart. Even if we chose a single dessert, we ate until it became too familiar and had lost its siren call. Basically filling up with dessert only leads to obesity and diabetes, both from which are hard to recover.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have taken the scalpel to the heart of the matter. Love (or relationships) are like a gourmet meal, to be enjoyed slowly-one course at a time and in the proper order. As a child of the 60’s most people of my acquaintance, not knowing any better, partook of dessert first, voraciously wolfing down copious amounts from the dessert cart. Even if we chose a single dessert, we ate until it became too familiar and had lost its siren call. Basically filling up with dessert only leads to obesity and diabetes, both from which are hard to recover.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://www.kellydiels.com/2011/05/18/love-fine-cheese/#comment-34196</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2011 21:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-34189&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Bryce&lt;/a&gt;, the vole study in that third article has been totally debunked. The &quot;monagamous&quot; vole isnt at all. they pair bond but they are not monagamous - males or females. 

This a great post and makes me want to share so much!
a) cheese is just milk&#039;s leap towards immortality.
b) it is a modern idea that one person must be lover, friend, guide, nurse, counselor, maid, muse, parent, mentor, playmate etc. This notion that we must be all (or a lot)to our partner creates masses of intimacy and stability and trust. But passion lives where there is more mystery and tension and surprise. How can we summon mystery and tension and surprise into our relationships so that we can continue to be delighted by them?
c)before the advent of agriculture there is ample evidence that humans for the bulk of evolution lived in bands where the groups shared food collection and preparation and actual food, shelter, child rearing and sex. We are promiscuous beings who are terribly plastic (in the sense of being flexible) but perhaps we have gotten a bit too used to a particular social structure. read Sex at Dawn for more!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-34189" rel="nofollow">@Bryce</a>, the vole study in that third article has been totally debunked. The &#8220;monagamous&#8221; vole isnt at all. they pair bond but they are not monagamous &#8211; males or females. </p>
<p>This a great post and makes me want to share so much!<br />
a) cheese is just milk&#8217;s leap towards immortality.<br />
b) it is a modern idea that one person must be lover, friend, guide, nurse, counselor, maid, muse, parent, mentor, playmate etc. This notion that we must be all (or a lot)to our partner creates masses of intimacy and stability and trust. But passion lives where there is more mystery and tension and surprise. How can we summon mystery and tension and surprise into our relationships so that we can continue to be delighted by them?<br />
c)before the advent of agriculture there is ample evidence that humans for the bulk of evolution lived in bands where the groups shared food collection and preparation and actual food, shelter, child rearing and sex. We are promiscuous beings who are terribly plastic (in the sense of being flexible) but perhaps we have gotten a bit too used to a particular social structure. read Sex at Dawn for more!</p>
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		<title>By: kellydiels</title>
		<link>http://www.kellydiels.com/2011/05/18/love-fine-cheese/#comment-34195</link>
		<dc:creator>kellydiels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2011 19:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you know what I&#039;ve realized about myself? That when I&#039;m driving the charge toward intimacy and commitment, I&#039;m comfortable. Up until a point. And then when my partner starts leading the way to the place of depth and substance, I get scared.

It&#039;s like I use bitching about a man&#039;s lack o&#039; commitment to distract me from my own commitment issues. I push and push and push for The Symbols but when I&#039;m offered true commitment and intimacy, I don&#039;t know what to do with it. I don&#039;t even know how to recognize it.

I wonder if it&#039;s the same for other women.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you know what I&#8217;ve realized about myself? That when I&#8217;m driving the charge toward intimacy and commitment, I&#8217;m comfortable. Up until a point. And then when my partner starts leading the way to the place of depth and substance, I get scared.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like I use bitching about a man&#8217;s lack o&#8217; commitment to distract me from my own commitment issues. I push and push and push for The Symbols but when I&#8217;m offered true commitment and intimacy, I don&#8217;t know what to do with it. I don&#8217;t even know how to recognize it.</p>
<p>I wonder if it&#8217;s the same for other women.</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsey</title>
		<link>http://www.kellydiels.com/2011/05/18/love-fine-cheese/#comment-34194</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2011 19:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[God, what truth.  For me at least, there&#039;s something scary about the going deep - not into another person, but into myself, which is necessary in order to let them in deep.  I recognize that that has been in my way before.  xo]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God, what truth.  For me at least, there&#8217;s something scary about the going deep &#8211; not into another person, but into myself, which is necessary in order to let them in deep.  I recognize that that has been in my way before.  xo</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Diels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly Diels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2011 19:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-34187&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@TheGoatDiva&lt;/a&gt;, &quot;I was trying to bribe him into always loving me.&quot;

Whoa. Just whoa.

We do that, don&#039;t we? It&#039;s like I wrote about convincing: we don&#039;t have to do it...AND IT DOESN&#039;T WORK.

and...thank you so much for your sweet words. xo]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-34187" rel="nofollow">@TheGoatDiva</a>, &#8220;I was trying to bribe him into always loving me.&#8221;</p>
<p>Whoa. Just whoa.</p>
<p>We do that, don&#8217;t we? It&#8217;s like I wrote about convincing: we don&#8217;t have to do it&#8230;AND IT DOESN&#8217;T WORK.</p>
<p>and&#8230;thank you so much for your sweet words. xo</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Diels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly Diels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2011 19:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-34189&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Bryce&lt;/a&gt;, I dig. I dig. But you knew I would. mwah.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-34189" rel="nofollow">@Bryce</a>, I dig. I dig. But you knew I would. mwah.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Diels</title>
		<link>http://www.kellydiels.com/2011/05/18/love-fine-cheese/#comment-34190</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly Diels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2011 19:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-34188&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Kazia@KitchenTableMarketing&lt;/a&gt;, oh honey you&#039;re my new favourite marketing expert. It is ALL relationship. All. Can&#039;t wait to see the blog post. xoxo]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-34188" rel="nofollow">@Kazia@KitchenTableMarketing</a>, oh honey you&#8217;re my new favourite marketing expert. It is ALL relationship. All. Can&#8217;t wait to see the blog post. xoxo</p>
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