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	<title>Comments on: The Not-So-Secret Lives of Women (and SATC 2)</title>
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		<title>By: Bed Guard ·</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bed Guard ·</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 19:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sex and the city is the sexiest tv show and nothing else could replace it        .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sex and the city is the sexiest tv show and nothing else could replace it        .</p>
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		<title>By: honeypots, fairy tales and the myth of commitment phobic men &#124; Cleavage by Kelly Diels.</title>
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		<dc:creator>honeypots, fairy tales and the myth of commitment phobic men &#124; Cleavage by Kelly Diels.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 07:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that&#8217;s why lots of women love Sex and The City. For the friendship. Because it is [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Nicole : Three By Sea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole : Three By Sea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 11:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved the show, as it did reflect the truths and archetypes of women and relationships. I was disappointed in the 1st movie, but was willing to see the 2nd because my BFF was going to fly down so we could see it together. However, life and children got in the way of that, so she went with her sister. She was extremely disappointed and killed all desire for me to see it. It&#039;s become a big paid advertisement with little plot or substance. Sad.
And your definition of parenting is so spot on. I wish more people, especially women, were honest about the ups AND downs of parenting instead of feeling guilty or inadequate when your child is making you want to lose your mind! Thanks for a great post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved the show, as it did reflect the truths and archetypes of women and relationships. I was disappointed in the 1st movie, but was willing to see the 2nd because my BFF was going to fly down so we could see it together. However, life and children got in the way of that, so she went with her sister. She was extremely disappointed and killed all desire for me to see it. It&#8217;s become a big paid advertisement with little plot or substance. Sad.<br />
And your definition of parenting is so spot on. I wish more people, especially women, were honest about the ups AND downs of parenting instead of feeling guilty or inadequate when your child is making you want to lose your mind! Thanks for a great post.</p>
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		<title>By: Irving Podolsky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irving Podolsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 04:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a guy, I&#039;ve never seen the show or the movies, I don&#039;t have children, I&#039;ve been happily married for 25 years, and I hate my name.  What can I say about this post?  Nothing.

Irv</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a guy, I&#8217;ve never seen the show or the movies, I don&#8217;t have children, I&#8217;ve been happily married for 25 years, and I hate my name.  What can I say about this post?  Nothing.</p>
<p>Irv</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Cococcia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Cococcia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 01:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just throwing my two cents in :) I didn&#039;t like the first and completely hated the second. The word &quot;embarrassing&quot; comes to mind. But I loved the show and wish it was still there. Not that you asked, but it&#039;s been on my mind so I thought I&#039;d share :) Hope you&#039;re doing great!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just throwing my two cents in <img src='http://www.kellydiels.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I didn&#8217;t like the first and completely hated the second. The word &#8220;embarrassing&#8221; comes to mind. But I loved the show and wish it was still there. Not that you asked, but it&#8217;s been on my mind so I thought I&#8217;d share <img src='http://www.kellydiels.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Hope you&#8217;re doing great!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Lightheart @alightheart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Lightheart @alightheart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 11:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well maybe I WILL go see it then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well maybe I WILL go see it then.</p>
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		<title>By: Deanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 17:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cinderella. Pretty Woman. Sex and the City 2.

&quot;We *must* find new archetypes and new stories to tell ourselves about love ‘n marriage.&quot;

Even when Carrie is &quot;designing&quot; her life, she is being &quot;saved&quot; by a man. In the end, the men are still dominant and the women are still submissive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cinderella. Pretty Woman. Sex and the City 2.</p>
<p>&#8220;We *must* find new archetypes and new stories to tell ourselves about love ‘n marriage.&#8221;</p>
<p>Even when Carrie is &#8220;designing&#8221; her life, she is being &#8220;saved&#8221; by a man. In the end, the men are still dominant and the women are still submissive.</p>
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		<title>By: PicsieChick</title>
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		<dc:creator>PicsieChick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 13:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love that you bring new ways of seeing things to me.

SATC?  Yeah, I watched that show.  *with* my man.  Usually didn&#039;t miss it.  Laughed a little, but mostly I just didn&#039;t get it.  I didn&#039;t understand the allure of the fashion - I didn&#039;t follow the need for the fancy restaurants and the exotic nightclubs.  But mostly, I didn&#039;t believe that women actually have friendships like that, that they talk about those topics, that they hang out with other women who are so different from them, that they really think those clothes looked beautiful, that they could walk away from love over and over and over again.  And my lack of belief often made me think disparagingly of the characters...

I thought it was fantasy from one end to the other.

I realize I may have been wrong.

Because even though I&#039;ve never had those kinds of friendships with women, maybe they do exist.  And maybe there is someone out there to talk with about the frivolous and the deep.  And maybe I can have enough to talk about with a mom, even though I&#039;m not, that we can be close friends.  And maybe I can be a friend to a single woman (a single mom, even!) even though I&#039;m happily married to my best friend.  

You make me think.  That&#039;s a good thing.  And you write so well it tastes like rhubarb pie!  Yummy and just a bit tart, but you just know it&#039;s good for you.

Moms kind of amaze me.  Kind of like tall thin women and serious athletes.  I won&#039;t be those people, but I sure admire them.  And even better when they are real and they are right here in my heart.

Hugs and butterflies,
~T~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love that you bring new ways of seeing things to me.</p>
<p>SATC?  Yeah, I watched that show.  *with* my man.  Usually didn&#8217;t miss it.  Laughed a little, but mostly I just didn&#8217;t get it.  I didn&#8217;t understand the allure of the fashion &#8211; I didn&#8217;t follow the need for the fancy restaurants and the exotic nightclubs.  But mostly, I didn&#8217;t believe that women actually have friendships like that, that they talk about those topics, that they hang out with other women who are so different from them, that they really think those clothes looked beautiful, that they could walk away from love over and over and over again.  And my lack of belief often made me think disparagingly of the characters&#8230;</p>
<p>I thought it was fantasy from one end to the other.</p>
<p>I realize I may have been wrong.</p>
<p>Because even though I&#8217;ve never had those kinds of friendships with women, maybe they do exist.  And maybe there is someone out there to talk with about the frivolous and the deep.  And maybe I can have enough to talk about with a mom, even though I&#8217;m not, that we can be close friends.  And maybe I can be a friend to a single woman (a single mom, even!) even though I&#8217;m happily married to my best friend.  </p>
<p>You make me think.  That&#8217;s a good thing.  And you write so well it tastes like rhubarb pie!  Yummy and just a bit tart, but you just know it&#8217;s good for you.</p>
<p>Moms kind of amaze me.  Kind of like tall thin women and serious athletes.  I won&#8217;t be those people, but I sure admire them.  And even better when they are real and they are right here in my heart.</p>
<p>Hugs and butterflies,<br />
~T~</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Bradbury</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane Bradbury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 08:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never watched it either. Maybe I&#039;m too old!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never watched it either. Maybe I&#8217;m too old!</p>
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		<title>By: Marianne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 00:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been relucatant to see the movie because while I loved the series I emphatically did not love the first movie (though I loved the experience of going to see it with girlfriends in LA and then going out for cocktails afterwards, trying on for a moment the glamourous lives of those SATC women). 

This line nails it for me: 

&quot;the most compelling parts of the series – the friendship, the social relevance – are dialed down in the movie, while the fashion and the glamour and the Not Your Life, Sucka are amped way up.&quot;

Also - I have zero tolerance for bullshit stereotypes about women from other cultures masquerading as feminism. I don&#039;t know if this film falls into that trap, but I&#039;m nervous about that possibility. 

Still - I&#039;ll go and see it with some of my favorite women and we&#039;ll sit around with a martini afterwards and talk about our real lives and that is what makes it worthwhile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been relucatant to see the movie because while I loved the series I emphatically did not love the first movie (though I loved the experience of going to see it with girlfriends in LA and then going out for cocktails afterwards, trying on for a moment the glamourous lives of those SATC women). </p>
<p>This line nails it for me: </p>
<p>&#8220;the most compelling parts of the series – the friendship, the social relevance – are dialed down in the movie, while the fashion and the glamour and the Not Your Life, Sucka are amped way up.&#8221;</p>
<p>Also &#8211; I have zero tolerance for bullshit stereotypes about women from other cultures masquerading as feminism. I don&#8217;t know if this film falls into that trap, but I&#8217;m nervous about that possibility. </p>
<p>Still &#8211; I&#8217;ll go and see it with some of my favorite women and we&#8217;ll sit around with a martini afterwards and talk about our real lives and that is what makes it worthwhile.</p>
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