Comments on: wherein I take a (temporary) break from bitching about Pick Up Artists

By: turns out I DON’T hate the ENTIRE Seduction Community, After All | Cleavage by Kelly Diels.

Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:20:18 +0000

[...] that there are men teaching other men how to handles this with ease and grace (and that there are men willing to learn this, thereby making things more comfortable for [...]

By: What do Jean Jacques Rousseau, The Seduction Community and the New York Times Have In Common? Don’t Worry, I’ll Tell You | Cleavage by Kelly Diels.

Fri, 05 Mar 2010 04:08:53 +0000

[...] 2. wherein I take a (temporary) break from bitching about pick up artists [...]

By: Aaron

Aaron — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:04:19 +0000

Kelly, very interesting article series here.

I wanted to share my story quickly.

I “joined” this community nearly 6 years ago. I was lonely, and was not very good at engaging women in conversation. Most women considered me a “nice guy” but I wasn’t getting anywhere – I hadn’t had a serious girlfriend in 5 years.

The first time I used the “techniques” on a woman I got the date. That date and “techniques” turned into:

-my best friend
-3 years of marriage
-the most beautiful little girl a father could ever ask for

For me, the program did exactly what I wanted it to.

By: Dave Doolin

Dave Doolin — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:05:44 +0000

@Deacon, dudes like this ain't got the nads to run with the Big Dogs.

By: Positive Mitch

Positive Mitch — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 03:13:47 +0000

@Kelly Diels, good idea and good of you to notice that. I think I will give this advice to my friends.

By: Kelly Diels

Kelly Diels — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 01:48:04 +0000

@Shannon O | Confessions of a Loving Wife, I’m not sure her judgement was clouded. It was such an abrupt end – how could she have predicted that? Maybe her judgement wasn’t clouded so much as rushed. And I know I do that, too – rush in.

Danielle LaPorte wrote something today about business that is a wise practice for any relationship: “optimism and incremental commitment.”

By: Kelly Diels

Kelly Diels — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 01:44:46 +0000

@Prahlad, what a great way to put it: "ghosts". I like that a lot.

By: Kelly Diels

Kelly Diels — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 01:43:44 +0000

@Deacon, hear hear.

By: Kelly Diels

Kelly Diels — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 01:43:17 +0000

@Prahlad, that story wasn't necessarily about gender. It was about fuckwittery. My point was that people are who they are, no matter what fancy techniques they use, or don't use. The genders could have been reversed, as you pointed out, because the point remains the same: a jerk is a jerk is a jerk.

By: Kelly Diels

Kelly Diels — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 01:41:04 +0000

@Christina Majaski, you've got great instincts...there's more to this story and I'll write about in the next instalment.