Comments on: Day 3. The scary, sad side of sex and Las Vegas. And people. Because it is made by us, for us. http://www.kellydiels.com/2009/12/13/day-3-the-scary-sad-side-of-sex-and-las-vegas-and-people-because-it-is-made-by-us-for-us/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=day-3-the-scary-sad-side-of-sex-and-las-vegas-and-people-because-it-is-made-by-us-for-us Cleavage is about the three things everyone wants more of: sex, money and meaning. Kelly Diels is writing through the lines that shape us. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 10:11:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Big Girls Don't Bang #ladypornday | Cleavage by Kelly Diels. http://www.kellydiels.com/2009/12/13/day-3-the-scary-sad-side-of-sex-and-las-vegas-and-people-because-it-is-made-by-us-for-us/comment-page-1/#comment-33765 Big Girls Don't Bang #ladypornday | Cleavage by Kelly Diels. Mon, 21 Feb 2011 07:08:36 +0000 http://www.kellydiels.com/?p=1194#comment-33765 [...] great it has been to talk to him and how much I appreciated his time. We text back and forth about my upcoming trip to Vegas. He implies he’d be willing to drive from Van Nuys to Las Vegas to meet me. And then I get [...] [...] great it has been to talk to him and how much I appreciated his time. We text back and forth about my upcoming trip to Vegas. He implies he’d be willing to drive from Van Nuys to Las Vegas to meet me. And then I get [...]

]]> By: Amelia Thomas http://www.kellydiels.com/2009/12/13/day-3-the-scary-sad-side-of-sex-and-las-vegas-and-people-because-it-is-made-by-us-for-us/comment-page-1/#comment-31313 Amelia Thomas Wed, 12 May 2010 08:43:17 +0000 http://www.kellydiels.com/?p=1194#comment-31313 Incandescent light bulbs will soon be phased out because they waste a lot of energy.*.. Incandescent light bulbs will soon be phased out because they waste a lot of energy.*..

]]> By: burning questions with kelly diels: cleavage + faith | White Hot Truth: because self-realization rocks. http://www.kellydiels.com/2009/12/13/day-3-the-scary-sad-side-of-sex-and-las-vegas-and-people-because-it-is-made-by-us-for-us/comment-page-1/#comment-4737 burning questions with kelly diels: cleavage + faith | White Hot Truth: because self-realization rocks. Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:25:00 +0000 http://www.kellydiels.com/?p=1194#comment-4737 [...] It's deep. She writes with rapier wit and overflowing love, about "everything we all want more of: sex, money, and meaning." And feminism. And Malcolm Gladwell. Yep. She's [...] [...] It's deep. She writes with rapier wit and overflowing love, about "everything we all want more of: sex, money, and meaning." And feminism. And Malcolm Gladwell. Yep. She's [...]

]]> By: Ronna Detrick http://www.kellydiels.com/2009/12/13/day-3-the-scary-sad-side-of-sex-and-las-vegas-and-people-because-it-is-made-by-us-for-us/comment-page-1/#comment-4727 Ronna Detrick Wed, 16 Dec 2009 02:23:04 +0000 http://www.kellydiels.com/?p=1194#comment-4727 I've read this post twice, Kelly, wondering how to respond. So much comes to mind. I have been provoked by what you've written, am aware of my own internal and visceral responses, and love that again and again you say what you want to say. In fact, that may be the key that unlocks the difference between the two kinds of sex portrayed here: am I free to say what I want to say or do I have to edit - or be controlled - or be harmed? Can I just BE? Passionate. Out-of-control. Wild. And still be totally present and "me?" It matters. It makes all the difference. Maybe it IS the difference. As always, thank you. I’ve read this post twice, Kelly, wondering how to respond. So much comes to mind. I have been provoked by what you’ve written, am aware of my own internal and visceral responses, and love that again and again you say what you want to say.

In fact, that may be the key that unlocks the difference between the two kinds of sex portrayed here: am I free to say what I want to say or do I have to edit – or be controlled – or be harmed? Can I just BE? Passionate. Out-of-control. Wild. And still be totally present and “me?” It matters. It makes all the difference. Maybe it IS the difference.

As always, thank you.

]]> By: David Gillaspie http://www.kellydiels.com/2009/12/13/day-3-the-scary-sad-side-of-sex-and-las-vegas-and-people-because-it-is-made-by-us-for-us/comment-page-1/#comment-4722 David Gillaspie Tue, 15 Dec 2009 06:08:14 +0000 http://www.kellydiels.com/?p=1194#comment-4722 My first time to Las Vegas made me wonder why anyone would go anywhere else. Next time with wife and kids and I get the cards on the corner. Made me wonder how many guys with their wife and kids see a card of a naked woman and leave the family right there; or how many hit the piercing parlor later and become nipple twiddlers. My first time to Las Vegas made me wonder why anyone would go anywhere else.

Next time with wife and kids and I get the cards on the corner. Made me wonder how many guys with their wife and kids see a card of a naked woman and leave the family right there; or how many hit the piercing parlor later and become nipple twiddlers.

]]> By: Lianne http://www.kellydiels.com/2009/12/13/day-3-the-scary-sad-side-of-sex-and-las-vegas-and-people-because-it-is-made-by-us-for-us/comment-page-1/#comment-4721 Lianne Tue, 15 Dec 2009 03:14:33 +0000 http://www.kellydiels.com/?p=1194#comment-4721 Interesting stuff, as usual. When I first read your previous post about the Vatican making you sick and Vegas not so much, I thought to myself - the Vatican and Vegas are basically the same thing - you know the old flip sides of the same coin idea. How so? Like so: Women exist only as sex objects resulting in a completely unhealthy idea of/relationship to sex- in Vegas that translates as "Girls Direct" and nipple twirling dudes, in the Vatican that translates as fear and rules (see celibacy) and underlying beliefs about womens' sexuality (see "Eunuchs for the Kingdom of Heaven") Like so: "The accretion of wealth in the hands of the few" through playing upon human weaknesses like the desire for the big payoff (heaven or the jackpot) See this recent article in the WSJ: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125996714714577317.html Like so: a "primal and visceral" desire to be loved underneath the worship - whether the worship is about money or about God, at it's heart it's about love And finally, the fact that always amidst the rubble of the crazy things humanity does on this planet, there arises beauty like the Sistine Chapel or the Cirque du Soleil or a woman scared and alone writing about what touches her soul. In a world where the Vatican did not exist, I don't think Vegas would exist, either. Interesting stuff, as usual. When I first read your previous post about the Vatican making you sick and Vegas not so much, I thought to myself – the Vatican and Vegas are basically the same thing – you know the old flip sides of the same coin idea.

How so?

Like so: Women exist only as sex objects resulting in a completely unhealthy idea of/relationship to sex- in Vegas that translates as “Girls Direct” and nipple twirling dudes, in the Vatican that translates as fear and rules (see celibacy) and underlying beliefs about womens’ sexuality (see “Eunuchs for the Kingdom of Heaven”)

Like so: “The accretion of wealth in the hands of the few” through playing upon human weaknesses like the desire for the big payoff (heaven or the jackpot) See this recent article in the WSJ: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125996714714577317.html

Like so: a “primal and visceral” desire to be loved underneath the worship – whether the worship is about money or about God, at it’s heart it’s about love

And finally, the fact that always amidst the rubble of the crazy things humanity does on this planet, there arises beauty like the Sistine Chapel or the Cirque du Soleil or a woman scared and alone writing about what touches her soul.

In a world where the Vatican did not exist, I don’t think Vegas would exist, either.

]]> By: Jeremy http://www.kellydiels.com/2009/12/13/day-3-the-scary-sad-side-of-sex-and-las-vegas-and-people-because-it-is-made-by-us-for-us/comment-page-1/#comment-4719 Jeremy Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:16:41 +0000 http://www.kellydiels.com/?p=1194#comment-4719 Well if you take the whole sex worker thing out of it (which i guess you can't cause it's the whole topic of the article) and you look at it like any other job (which it's not because of the emotional aspect but I guess other jobs have emotional aspects that don't involve coitis) and look at it like this: Does a web designer that works as a web designer 9-5 enjoy his free lance gigs more than his 9-5. Probably. When you choose to do something because you want to it brings more joy than if you choose to do something because you have to survive (I think). Just my 2 pennies. Well if you take the whole sex worker thing out of it (which i guess you can’t cause it’s the whole topic of the article) and you look at it like any other job (which it’s not because of the emotional aspect but I guess other jobs have emotional aspects that don’t involve coitis) and look at it like this: Does a web designer that works as a web designer 9-5 enjoy his free lance gigs more than his 9-5. Probably. When you choose to do something because you want to it brings more joy than if you choose to do something because you have to survive (I think). Just my 2 pennies.

]]> By: Leah http://www.kellydiels.com/2009/12/13/day-3-the-scary-sad-side-of-sex-and-las-vegas-and-people-because-it-is-made-by-us-for-us/comment-page-1/#comment-4718 Leah Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:19:44 +0000 http://www.kellydiels.com/?p=1194#comment-4718 I love Vegas just because it is so fake, and over the top and sparkly, but I also appreciate its dark, sleazy underside and the idea that selling sex is big business.....and you know it must be big business in order to have so many people involved in it.People go there to live out their fantasy's on one level...but some end up in their worst nightmares too. I agree with Lisis.....it is all there and you have to choose what it is that you focus on. As far as the dude playing with his nipple...why do guys do that??I can not imagine anyone responding who was not a prostitute...and I have no doubt it was wishful thinking on his part that prompted him to do it to you. When I used to go out to clubs in the Boston area I would always have at least one or two guys every night who would say "nice rack" or some other ridiculous comment when I walked by. What was that?? It certainly never got them laid that's for sure. I love Vegas just because it is so fake, and over the top and sparkly, but I also appreciate its dark, sleazy underside and the idea that selling sex is big business…..and you know it must be big business in order to have so many people involved in it.People go there to live out their fantasy’s on one level…but some end up in their worst nightmares too. I agree with Lisis…..it is all there and you have to choose what it is that you focus on.
As far as the dude playing with his nipple…why do guys do that??I can not imagine anyone responding who was not a prostitute…and I have no doubt it was wishful thinking on his part that prompted him to do it to you. When I used to go out to clubs in the Boston area I would always have at least one or two guys every night who would say “nice rack” or some other ridiculous comment when I walked by. What was that?? It certainly never got them laid that’s for sure.

]]> By: Lisis http://www.kellydiels.com/2009/12/13/day-3-the-scary-sad-side-of-sex-and-las-vegas-and-people-because-it-is-made-by-us-for-us/comment-page-1/#comment-4717 Lisis Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:55:34 +0000 http://www.kellydiels.com/?p=1194#comment-4717 Vegas, my dear, is a microcosm of the universe. I've been there more times than I can count because, back in my flying days, it seemed all of my passengers wanted a quick trip to Vegas. And what could be better than a night time landing next to The Strip? But it wasn't until my sister LIVED there, with her husband and daughter and jobs and "normal" life, that I got to see ALL sides of Vegas. Like anything else in life, when in Vegas you have to CHOOSE what you are going to focus on. If you want to see glittery lights, the optimistic merriment of bachelorette parties, the celebrations of a job well done or a life well-lived... you'll see it there. Or, you could choose to focus on the desperation of those who spend their last dollar (and then some) hoping for an easy break... those who sell their bodies and souls thinking it's the only choice they have... those who make a living preying on the desperate ones. Or you could look beyond the strip, and see a totally UNspectacular suburban desert sprawl of people creating a life around the magic and misery of The Strip, out in the middle of nowhere. Vegas is an exercise in opposites, as is everything else in life. The good is spectacularly good... the bad is unimaginably bad. It is up to YOU to decide what you want to get out of it. Oh, and don't forget: What happens in Vegas, ends up on youtube (so, be careful!). Vegas, my dear, is a microcosm of the universe. I’ve been there more times than I can count because, back in my flying days, it seemed all of my passengers wanted a quick trip to Vegas. And what could be better than a night time landing next to The Strip?

But it wasn’t until my sister LIVED there, with her husband and daughter and jobs and “normal” life, that I got to see ALL sides of Vegas.

Like anything else in life, when in Vegas you have to CHOOSE what you are going to focus on. If you want to see glittery lights, the optimistic merriment of bachelorette parties, the celebrations of a job well done or a life well-lived… you’ll see it there.

Or, you could choose to focus on the desperation of those who spend their last dollar (and then some) hoping for an easy break… those who sell their bodies and souls thinking it’s the only choice they have… those who make a living preying on the desperate ones.

Or you could look beyond the strip, and see a totally UNspectacular suburban desert sprawl of people creating a life around the magic and misery of The Strip, out in the middle of nowhere.

Vegas is an exercise in opposites, as is everything else in life. The good is spectacularly good… the bad is unimaginably bad. It is up to YOU to decide what you want to get out of it.

Oh, and don’t forget: What happens in Vegas, ends up on youtube (so, be careful!).

]]> By: Steve http://www.kellydiels.com/2009/12/13/day-3-the-scary-sad-side-of-sex-and-las-vegas-and-people-because-it-is-made-by-us-for-us/comment-page-1/#comment-4715 Steve Mon, 14 Dec 2009 10:12:41 +0000 http://www.kellydiels.com/?p=1194#comment-4715 It seems sad doesn't it? I feel like these people, both the workers and those they are working for have this distorted idea about what life is supposed to be. Here they take something that is wonderful, sex, and in an effort to turn it into something titillating, it becomes mundane and sordid. It seems sad doesn’t it? I feel like these people, both the workers and those they are working for have this distorted idea about what life is supposed to be. Here they take something that is wonderful, sex, and in an effort to turn it into something titillating, it becomes mundane and sordid.

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